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climbed in a window and attacked his sister as she slept. >> he climb ares in your window, hasourkids, your wife, and your husband. >> his passionate rant ended up auto tuned. now, antoine is selling the bad intruder costume for $49.99. >> they're going to be like, who is it. you say, hide your kids, hide your wife. >> at least it's a bed intruder and not a bed bug. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> that's it for me. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." john king, usa, starts right now. >> thanks, wolf. good evening. tonight, the right declared war on national public radio for firing juan williams who says he gets nervous flying sometimes if he sees muslims on the plane. >> and then this man adds this
about his republican opponent. >> he can't win a debate so he's spending a fortune telling you she is an obama liberal. now, that's name-calling and it's not exactly racist. not exactly. >> and what's okay and what is out of bounds in our political discourse. also, former president boosh is stepping back into the spotlight to discuss his soon to be published memoir. he said he talked about iraq and goi cutroona. >> it started with a personal decision, quitting drinking at age 40, a decision i couldn't have made without faith. >> let's start a pact hour of paulphics. it's just 12 days election day with the current president and a comment he made today that frames the defining question of this year's hostile democrats'
mid-term campaign environment. as you listen, ask, is that how you see it? >> we're in such emergency mode, it was very difficult for us to spend a lot of time doing victory laps and advertising what we were doing because we had to move on to the next thing. >> is the president's problem and the democrats' problem bad advertising and too few victory laps, or do you disagree with the president's policies? joining us, cornell belcher, gloria borger, and the president believes that. he believes if they had more time to say here is what is good about the health care bill, about the stimulus bill, about extending the bailout, that people would say, okay, but that's risky when the climate says people don't buy that.
>> really he's telling what a lot of us democrats think anyway. we did a fairly poor job of selling what we were doing. if you break down, take health care f you break down health care, it's fairly popular. it's not popular as obama care because of the way it's been sold. if you look at the financial reform package, when you break it down, it's popular, it's what americans want, but we have done an awfully poor job selling it. >> it sounds a little elite, excuse me for saying that, to say if we only sold it to americans more, they would get it. what if they sort of understand what was in it and they didn't like it because they thought it was too much? >> here is my push back on that. there is still probably a third of americans who think the killing little old ladies part of the bill. if they did a better job of selling falsehoods, then we would be selling the policy. >> the white house's argument is also changing. a few months ago, the white house was not saying we messaged
poorly. they said, by the time the election comes around, they'll feel the benefits of this, they'll get it. >> that was a mistake. >> even if the president -- again, even tif the president i right, he's telling me, if you disagree with me, you're wrong. you're telling voters, everyday americans who maybe don't want pre-existing conditions to be in the bill, or they look around and say where is the stimulus money in my community? >> i think this is the president fessing up to what you all have said, and what democrats have said is we have done a poor job selling what we're doing. >> it's a little whiny. >> sim saying i didn't do a good job is not whining. it's him being a man. >> let's add this to the conversation because when you're out, you were just out in ohio, you have been to california, other big states. that's not what the republican candidates are saying. they don't think the president
has bad messaging. republicans say this. >> the theme of jobs and paychecks versus job killing and food stamps is a theme that really most americans can understand, and i think that as we go around the country on the jobs tour, we're going to keep driving home the mesfj you're pelosi and reid and obama, your policy kills jobs. >> newt gingrich feels like he's on a victory lap. >> there he gowise the food stamp thing. it boggles my mind what they're trying to do with the food stamp thing. it took them eight years to tear down what bill clinton, the peace and prosperity that bill clinton built. it took them eight years to tear that down. to say that barack obama and democrats are going to rebuild that in a little over a year and a half is ridiculous. >> there's a lot of heavy spin coming from republicans on the campaign trail. this argument that because there
are so many job losses, the stimulus didn't work is something they're selling heavily even though we have objective government analyses that say we would have been worse without it. >> that's a bad job selling it. >> here is, newt gingrich is so good at the vocabulary of politics. he knows exactly where to put in the knife and turn it. job killers, food stamps. he just uses that vocabulary and he knows exactly what republican voters will respond to, and he knows how to get them to the polls. that's what he's trying to do. >> one of the things we need to do a better job of is explaining why things happen. the president was oit campaigning for patty murray who won an election several years back, and she's among the democrats now who are quite nervous. that's where you saw the president out there in the back
yard saying he needed to do more victory laps or sell things better. he also talked about women in politics. >> things like equal pay for equal work aren't just women's issues. they're family issues because how well women do will determine how well our families are doing as a whole. >> now, i have no question the president believe s everything e just said, but the reason he's saying it there so close to an election is he has the same poll numbers we do, and look at this. are you enthusiastic about voting inthis is among women voters. in september, 42% say they were. 46% say so now. in september, 36% of democrats say they were enthuse assic. even among women, you see a pro republican cap. >> we do not win if there's not a gender gap. that's straight up and down. we do not do well if there's not
a significant gender gap. we have to bring the women home. this circles back to where we started. democrat women aren't as enthusiastic as republican women because we have not done a very good job of explaining to americans and selling to americans what we have been doing, not only independents but democrats. >> women at the outset were very enthusiastic about the prospect of health care reform because it's often women who take care of their parents and children and spouses. and they became less and less enthusiastic as the process went on because women like men felt shut out of the process, and they didn't like it. they didn't think it was what barack obama promised them. that's why they're unenthusiastic about going to vote. >> this is a theme a lot of campaigns have been pushing for a while. it's all about the women's vote. we can get out, then we can win. they have pushed that on me so i have done a little research. they even get specific, women
between 24 and 50 who are college graduates. >> it's you. >> it's me, and they -- so i have talked to a couple very senior democrats who say the bottom line on this is we're so done with men. men will not listen to us. the ones who aren't onboard aren't getting onboard so women is all we have left. >> you are the majority. >> tomorrow, nancy pelosi, i got a message, is having a conference call with a woman member of congress to talk about what the democrats have done for women. you think they're trying to get out the women voters? >> i have been trying to figure out what women want for a long time. >> we'll talk. >> on that note, quick time-out. everyone is going to stay with us. when we come back, two former presidents, bill clinton and george w. bush are back in action today. we'll explain what they're up to. [ commentator ] lindsey vonn! she stays tough!
presidential campaign. boy, do i remember that, and he's back on the trail this year. another comeback of sorts. he went from florida to north carolina to maryland campaigning for democratic candidates, and he's been across the country. let's discuss his role. here is what strikes me. this afternoon, he went to north carolina. this is bill clinton, the former governor of arkansas. the centrist trying to protect what is simply a dying breed, which is sasouthern democrat. and heath shuler, former college quarterback, played briefly for the redskins, we won't go there, is in the congress here, his second stint in washington, he's trying to make it more distinguished, and he's in trouble. back in 1980, democrats held 69 seats in the congress from the south. 64% of the seats in the south were in democratic hands.
in 2004, it fell to 49 seats. democrats had only 37% of the seats in the south. they came up a little bit in 2008 because of the obama victory. they now hold 45% of the seats in the south. 49% in '80, 49% this year, and most southern democrats are in problem. what is the party's problem? >> this goes back to the reagan democrats when they started moving to republicans. it goes back further when l.b.j. signed the civil rights legislation and said, there goes the south. however, when you look at sort of the way the bible belt is changing sort of demographically, becoming more black, more brown, a lot more african-americans are moving back to the bible belt, i would pause because i feel like some
of the trends are going to change where you're seeing a changing demgrographic in the area. >> a tough cycle this year? >> if you can turn them out, it's just like out west. that is a chain demographic with more aspects. >> remember after the presidential election, we were talking about how the republican party had been reduced to a southern, white male party. so the fact that they're going to take a lot of these seats back is really not surprising. those are probably the seats that democrats shouldn't have wanted anyway. >> winning virginia, winning north carolina, being more competitive, they thought it was perhaps a building block. >> it's a building block when we change the face of the electric. it goes back to the conversation we have been having all week. we won that on the obama surge that was blacker, browner, and larger. >> and don't forget, redistricting is coming up next
year, and that could keep some of the seats in republican hands for long time. >> that was another one of the races bill clinton was campaigning, the florida governor's race. they get two seats. that would be a big deal in districting. >> how many democrats can campaign in the south? >> bill clinton. i can count that. let's move on. we got a dose of the realism from the senate republican leader, mitch mcconnell. inside his camp, they would love to get the ten seats to make them the majority leaders, but he's going have to deal with probably a more conservative and probably tea party candidates in his caucus. listen to what he told the international journal. one of the ingress we have to remind newcomers and those who supported them is that even though we will have a larger majority, we won't be able to control the government. we need to have a humble, grateful response about this
election. incidentally, there's no polling data that suggests that voters love us. >> that's a pragmatic statement saying i'm going to have a new caucus. they're going to give me a ton of grief, asking me to do things i probably won't be able to do. >> lowering expectations. watch my spin here. back -- they don't take the senate, absolute failure by republicans if they don't take back the senate given all the conditions they had. if they don't get back the senate, jim demint. >> you can't overpromise and underdeliver. he knows that. first rule of politics. that's what mcconnell is saying, guys. don't do this to us because we'll look like faltiers. >> who will disagree with him is sarah palin who cnn interviewed this week and said if the republicans don't listen to the tea party, in a few years, they're through.
>> she doesn't have to legislate. >> the fight will continue after the election. let's close with this. the former president george w. bush is about to publish a memo memoir. he has a youtube video. >> the book ends with an account of the financial crisis of 2008 and my ideology to set problems aside. i wrote about the options i considered, the advice i received, and the principles that guided my actions. i reflect on what i did right, what i did wrong, and what i would do differently if i had a chance. >> there are so many people i talked to who said mr. president, saying president bush, make a spiess explaining why you did this because bob bennett, lisa murkowski, a lot of democrats, too, people who cast a vote in favor of what the american people think was the big wall street wasteful bail
out are getting crushed. and he said abandon ideology. mr. bush says that's an abandonment, but that's the toxic vote on the trail. >> and he's the only one talking about it. jest knows t.a.r.p. is being repaid. who is talking about it. >> it's unpopular because people still don't understand why we bailed the banks out. they don't grasp the concept. >> it's in america's best interest if bush doesn't talk about it. if you talk to voters, they plame obama for t.a.r.p. it started under bush, but -- >> maybe it's the ideology. >> maybe he could afford a better backdrop for that. smoke in the background. >> thanks. when we come back, a lot more to discuss. npr fires juan williams.
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on a plane, getting ready to fly. npr fired for him. inbounds, out of bounds. should he have been fired? should he have had a chance to defend himself? joining us, eric erickson, and also rolen martin right here. eric, i want to go to you first because the right has seized on the issue and said cut npr, they won't do interviews on npr, sarah palin wrote about it on her facebook page today. where did they go wrong? >> to take a man like juan williams and fire him for a statement like that, and he finished that by saying you can't blame all muslims for the acts of a few. it was a legitimate remark to make. compare that to the remark
saying christianity had something to do with tim mcveigh blowing up a building or saying jesse helms was going to get aids or another reporter saying newt gingrich wanted to lynch black people. none of these people got fired. i think it has more to do with juan williams being a fox news contributor more than anything else. >> do you believe that? >> first, i believe it was wrong for npr to fire him based on the one comment. they aired the ceo who said they had several issues with williams over the years. his relationship with fox bothered them. we have to have real conversations on people's real fearess, which he spoke of. i own 30 or 40 pieces of traditional african attire. someone may consider that to be muslim garb, but i don't want someone looking at me saying is he a terrorist. the other piece is here, look at
the videotapes of the 9/11 hijackers, not a single one was wearing muslim garb. they were wearing traditional clothes. i think we should have free-flowing conversations, not shutting someone down, saying these are my personal fears. >> let's listen to what he said and this is an extended piece because we didn't want people to take it in a wrong way. >> i think you're right. i think political correctness can lead to some kind of paralysis where you don't address reality. look, bill, i'm not a bigot. you know the kind of books i have written about, the civil rights movement in this country, but when i get on a plane, i have to tell you, when i see people in muslim garb and i think they're identifying themselves first and foremest as muslims, i get worried, nervous. i remember also when the times square bomber was in court, i think this was just last week, he said the war with muslims,
america's war with muslims is just beginning, first drop of blood. there's no way to get away from the facts, but there are people who want to remind us all as bush did after 9/11, it's not a war against islam. >> now, rolen, you were shaking your head. i have know juan for a number of years. he's a fair guy, a thoughtful guy, a straight-forward guy. a lot of americans rightly or wrongly have the same sentiments. they get nervous and feel guilty about it, but hiby human nature that's what happens. >> that's why i shook my head when he said these are the facts. that's your opinion. you're basing it on a typical stereotype. just as juan williams would be offended if he got to the elevator and he saw a white woman scluch her purse. also, if i see a white guy with a crew cut and some black boots
and a black leather jacket, i don't automatically think is he a nee onazi? i wouldn't look at someone who is jewish and say you have a certain hat on, a certain attire, you must be a member of this group. it's the problem with allowing a stereotype to be pushed on everyone. >> there's a larger issue. we have seen this across networks in discussions related to the preacher who wanted to burn books or the qur'an, there's a lot of concerns americans have about a lot of islam, and no one wants to dress the concerns without using the word bigot to address the people who have the concerns, rightly or wrongly. and you have a situation like juan williams, and i can give you dozens and dozens of npr reporters making offensive statements about tea partiers
and they have never been disciplined, but high makes this statement that is reflected by a wide group of people, and he's fired. >> i'm offended as the husband of a breacher that everyone is trying to steal someone's money. i still bleesk we should be able to have conversations in this country without somebody saying, oh, my god, let me watch what i say. that's the problem with that. if npr listened to what juan had to say, he's saying these are my true feelings. it's what i feel, what i sense, own up to it and then educate yourself on the problem. >> appreciate your time. it's a conversation we'll continue in the days ahead. if you're wondering why this selection matters, consider this. it's not on the ballot, but one of the most divisive issues on the ballot is abortion. they could put it front and center in your state. see why, next. e what to take?
elections have consequences. sometimes we don't do a good enough job explaining what the consequences would be. the overriding issues this year are the economy and obama. but if they are expecting to make big gains, next year is also likely to bring new simmering fights about issues like immigration and abortion. you hear more and more talks about iplans to copy arizona's immigration law, and there's talk about using nebraska's law. it bans most abortions after 20 weeks on grounds some experts
say it's at that point a fetus can feel pain. the previous law banned abortion at the line where a fetus can survive outside the womb which is considering about 22 weeks after inception. margery felter is president of the susan b. anthony committee, and terry o'neal is on the council to protect women's rights. how many states will look at nebraska and say, let's propose that here? >> i would say a significant number of states given the massive win that was. that's was an overwhelming win. using that as a model, it would only make sense that we replicate it elsewhere, mainly because the muscle on the ground supports it all across the country, there is consensus where late-term abortions are a place where many say perhaps we
should draw a line. >> some say maybe there hasn't been an immediate lawsuit is because this roberts court isn't the place to have the fight? >> sure, they're aggressively conservative, and it's frightening. the main thing here is women around the country don't want to criminalize abortion. in fact, what wim want is good reproductive health care. >> this law does not criminalize women. you point to a law that does criminalize women. and i would be willing to take that down and figure out how to change it. that's not the approach of the pro-life movement. the approach is to have reflected in the law areas of consensus like late-term abortions. in fact, this particular approach that has to deal with fetal pain, when the fetus starts to feel pain is when we draw the line is the vary issue that turned the mind of the leading abortionist in the
nation -- >> there is concern about parental consent. now we're in a world of fast advancing science and technology and medical care. is the position of abortion rights groups that support abortion rights, that it's irrelevant -- that's a tough word to use in this issue, but is that less important to the simple, no, this should be a women's choice regardless of what the consensus says. >> i think what we can agree on is these are health care matters. a woman's reproductive health care is a complex thing. it's not for the politician or the religious organizations to decide for each and every woman to decide what is right for her, her health care, and her family. late-term abortions are having to deal with health care disasters and issues. >> as long as we understand it's health care it seems to me what we have to look at is who is
going to be making the decisi decisions, her family and herself? or is that going to be the leader of the state or the governors or a religious leader? >> the question is who are the patients. in late-term abortion, we're talking about a healthy, viable stree fetus that can live outside the womb. it's a callus thing to say that child is not a patient as well as the woman. the unborn child does feel pain at that point. when they're performed, the child is given anesthesia before it's aborted. >> we have seen this come up in washington during confirmation battles, but is this an issue where washington is a bystander and do you see increasing volume about a state by state battle for abortion rights? >> sure, what the right wing's strategy has been in the past about abortion has been to test drive the antiabortion measured.
and by the way, the fetal pain measure is a measure for shocking and shaming women. there isn't any scientific evidence that there's fetal pain, so that's one of many techniques to shock and shame women around the abortion issue. it's not medically valid, and it's not scientifically valid. >> check out the new england record of medicine and journals all over the place. >> i think your viewers need to check out the repudable things. what the strategy has been is to test drive these throughout the states and import them into washington. >> margery and terry, thanks. we'll continue the conversation another day. let's get information from jeffrey toobin. the issues here, viability, fetal pain, are they issues that any court and specifically the supreme court is comfortable dealing with or do they typically say, not our department. that's up to the medical people?
>> this is the most political, and many people believe the most important issue in the united states supreme court. this law, i think, clearly would have been struck down as unconstitutional in the 1990s. but when you have samuel alito replacing sandra day o'connor. when you have anthony kennedy moving to the right on the abortion law as he's done in recent years, the odds would favor this law being upheld by the supreme court. >> we see the conversations all the time. roe v. wade, the stare decisis. it's not roe v. wade but the more and more open to restrictions, is that fair? >> that's right. the court did an almost direct about-face on what some people call late-term abortion, partial-birth abortion. in 2000, they struck down a law, also from nebraska, that banned that procedure. in 2007, with the new members of
the court, they upheld a federal law that outlawed that procedure. the court is allowing states and the congress more latitude in restricting abortion. the words of the law are still the same, which is does this law or any law abortion impose an undue burden, that's the key word, an undue burden on a woman's right to choose abortion. but what the judges are holding, anthony kennedy, the key vote on the board, is he's giving more latitude to legislators to restrict the right. >> thanks. >> okay, john. a former bush white house insider has published a novel about the first female president. how much does her story reflect reality? just ahead. to sweet talk your taste buds it's for my heart health. so i can't have any? if you can deprive me of what can help lower my cholesterol... and live with yourself. right. mmm, i worry about your mother.
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in just a few hours, the debate for governor in the state of new mexico is kicking off. the republican there is susanna martinez. the democrat is diane martinez. if martinez wins, it will be the first latina governor in the united states. all eyes on albuquerque. >> fabulous race. we'll keep an eye on it. the first female governor of new mexico. >> nicole wallace has see the good and bad of power politics. she was george w. bush's white house communications director and in 2008, she was one of the first john mccain aids called in to help with sarah pail. instead of writing a tell-all, she she's published a novel about the country's first female president, and neot to give too much away, the husband is a piece of work. i'm holding up your work. in full disclosure, nicolle
wallace is a friend. you worked for jeb bush and then george w. bush, then you worked for john mccain. what was it about working with all these powerful men that convinced you the leadership, not only the president, but the chief of staff, needed to be women? >> i found it more astounding frankly that we never had a white house chief of staff than i did that we never had a female president. the first character that i kind of conjured up when i set out to write this fantasy, as some people call it for a lot of reasons, not just because the president is a woman but because she's a moderate, was that we had to break other ground and have the first female white house chief of staff. >> you talk about breaking ground. i have know you a long time and i can find a little karen hughes in here, karl rove in here, sarah palin in here. i can find little nicole here. not a female president, but a
modera moderate, republican president. looking at this year's campaign, that's not only fiction, that's fantasy. >> it is. i think we're further away from electing a moderate democrat or republican than we are from electing our first female president. this is something i wanted to play with in fiction. it's threatening sometimes when you opine on the you enter the fray of i watch your show tonight and some of the debates are really raw. i worked on two president campaigns and traveled with george w. bush and john mccain and i worked in the white house for five years. i wanted to step back and explore some of the issues that i had strong emotional reactions to in fiction. >> the title eighteen acres is a term that many people know but not around the country. that's the size of the white house complex. the insiders call it eighteen acres. one of the people you helped consult and the relationship
soured was sarah pale number the last presidential campaign. sarah palin after that campaign, many people thought, she won't run for president. she's been helped in some ways and hurt in others. and she'll fade. instead she's had an enormously high profile at the leader of the tea party and campaigning around the country. how do you answer critics essentially who say you are dividing the party. >> the i -- if i spent all my time answering the critics, i might as well close up shop. we so appreciate the common sense missions of tea party candidates. >> could nicolle wallace ever vote for sarah palin for president? >> we'll see. what i love about sarah palin is that the times have changed so dramatically from two years ago. it was widely viewed as a political liability that she lacked some of the experience that other candidates on the national stage had.
i think the political climate has been completely turned on its head. the things that were a liability two years ago are ansy pet. the things that were largely considered requirements for a candidate, the interview she did with network anchors are completely irrelevant, it would seem, in the cycle and certainly for tea party candidates. so interesting to have stepped back and to enjoy watching these people not working for them any more. it is more fun to watch them break the rules and, you know, to see what happens. the midterms are a great laboratory for the presidential election which is coming up in two years. i'm enjoying getting to watch from the cheap seats. >> out of government, not involved in a campaign at the moment, but that was full spin. i ask you had would nicolle wallace ever vote for sarah palin for president. that was a great answer, but it didn't answer the question. >> i'm a primary voter in the state of connecticut. and you know, i think if she were our party's nominee, i would have a really hard time voting for her. >> i want to read something else from the book.
a little bit of salty language but i'll work my way around it. between the anemic recovery and two wars she's been dealt a crummy hand. every time she opens her mouth to discuss those topics her approval ratings go down. congress bleeps all over her. i don't know who treats her worse, the democrats or the republican, she rolls with it. that's melanie, the white house chief of staff, in your book, but i could say that would be somebody else in the obama white house talking about president obama, no? >> absolutely. it could be someone -- it certainly was a conversation that we used to have in the bush white house. the job of being this country's chief executive in these extraordinarily challenging times is a really difficult one. and the secret that white house staffers share with handful of reporters -- i'm sure you're in on it -- are that those jobs are brutal. what i tried to bring to life, the story is entirely fictional, but i tried to make the place as real as it was. we talked a little bit about sarah palin.
i think that my characters were very well served by the fact that i experienced great triumphs and public humiliation. i tried to bring some of that roller coaster of life in politics. working in national politics is like juggling fireballs. sometimes you get burned. i really wanted to be as honest as i could be about what that emotional roller coaster is like without speaking out of school about any of the people i workeded for. i tried to have some fun, i tried to do it in a way that's light. i don't think you have to work in politics to relate to the aspiration that women have to do everything well, to do a good job at work, to have great and satisfying relationships, to do a good job at home. we as women feel it more than men to do everything to the hilt. and so i tried to bring to light these women at the top of their field who were juggling all the normal things. >> nicolle wallace is the author of "eighteen acres."
you should read it. she's already hard at work in the sequel. i don't know what role she'll have in the movie. i hope when i read the sequel a guy has one decent job. >> george clooney will play you if ever there's a movie. >> sucking up, i like that very much. when we come back, pete dominic is with us. christine o'donnell now thinks that it's a mistake for that famous ad. because of one word,
program we had on fred davis, the republican ad man who made the "i am not a witch" ad for christine o'donnell. he said this is only way to get it behind you. abc's john carl, a good reporter, had an interview with christine o'donnell and he asked her this. >> any regrets in doing the ad, because that really did raise it again. >> yeah, yeah. you know, i haven't publicly stated this. i don't know if i'll get in trouble for saying that. but our intention was to kill it. and that's not what happened. >> that's not what happened. she's right. >> i mean, i don't even know -- how does that pitch happen? listen, here's what you're going to do, christine. tell people you're not a witch. has she ever heard of comedians. has she ever heard of the internet? has he, i should say. advising her. tell them you're not a witch. it will work out really great. no, no, get different advice, krinsine.